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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefrey A. Brother wrote:
I just checked. Last year we played from the shorts. That would explain a lot.


did I mention heavy duty cold meds?

is the hole more fair from the shorts in a winter layout?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is the hole more fair from the shorts in a winter layout?


It's a lot easier to thumber if that's what your asking. sly wink
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is the hole more fair from the shorts in a winter layout?


It's a lot easier to thumber if that's what your asking. sly wink


No I don't really care. Its more about how well the hole plays for everyone....given what I have heard about it being stand and deliver, how many people could realistically reach the green off their drive? 5? maybe 6....so those guys get 2-3....but what happens to the rest of the field? 4-5s?

shorts really levels the field and is still a hard shot, even overhand

Its not my fault i can throw a few different ways
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jefrey A. Brother wrote:
I just checked. Last year we played from the shorts. That would explain a lot.


did I mention heavy duty cold meds?

is the hole more fair from the shorts in a winter layout?


I would say so. I'm pretty sure no one is making a birdie (2) from the longs in the winter. Maybe that's a good thing? I don't know. Something the Tyrant will have to think about.

I'm OK with both longs or shorts, but they offer completely different strategies and excitment: longs will be a technical, "boring" hole, or a high scoring hole, depending on how you approach it and it'll definitely eat some mullies; shorts can give you a 2 or a 7! I'd prefer a Kanata tee over a hybird (but ignore that statement when it comes to 3 big grin).
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is the hole more fair from the shorts in a winter layout?


It's a lot easier to thumber if that's what your asking. sly wink


A lot easier to thumber, flick, annie, lay-up...

Longs will be about your second shot, whether it's the long putt for 2, the save-my-a$$ from in the thornie sh!t sh!t, or the nice approach from the gap.

As winter golf goes, they're both good tees, really.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Then it'll most likely stay longs and remain a mullie eating monster.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then it'll most likely stay longs and remain a mullie eating monster.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

andros wrote:
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- and Tyrant Dros hitting the side of the hill and skipping right over to have a simple putt for a 3!


Those snow bunkers are awesome! big grin


Yes they were. I'm giving credit to Penton for the initial idea, Ben for the acutal planning of the bunkers, Penton for getting that shite together, Ben for the on-site foremaning and Ben, Deuce and Penton (mostly Ben and Deuce) for the construction. I also brought a lighter.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Then it'll most likely stay longs and remain a mullie eating monster.


It'll be interesting to see the stats for IB Saturday. Is the advantage now to a non-D golfer? Can Andros get over again? Will the thumber-throwers find success? I like the story lines.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was wondering who's work was that. Nice job.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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- #3. The move of the pad up to the tree was cool. I think it opened up scoring for that hole. Still needed a decent shot to get your bird, but it wasn't a just a prayer for some. Nice winter golf addition.


That was purely accidental. I sent Errol off to set up #3 tee while I did #9, and told him to mark it even with the tree, but 20 feet back. I guess he missed the 20' back part. I'm glad it was enjoyed, and I think the fact of the matter is that now that the tree has been trimmed, it's not really in play any more, even from the regular long tee.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lollipops:

#9 - That ish is long! It's a perfect par 4, with all that open space on the left beckoning you to play a safe second throw and be content with a 4. Again, the birdie is definitely there for the big-arms, but risk vs. reward is very in play with the green's proximity to the treeline....

#1 - I'll never get tired of taking a 2 with a thumber drive there. smile

#3 - I totally need to learn how to throw a flick.

#10 - Deceptively long, as someone has already said. A really nice hole, and that wind made things veeeeeerrrrry eeeenteresting...

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#5 - Longs, in the winter, is HARD. From the short tee, I think there's far more risk/reward available. From the long tees, everyone should be getting a 3 at this time of year. From the shorts, it's definitely a 2 or a 7 kind of situation, but can still be a mullie eater. Here's how I see it: First drive is either on the green, putting for 2, or in the woods. If it's in the woods, eat a mulligan, lay up, and hopefully guarantee yourself a 3. Or, try to go big(ish) again, and eat another mulligan.

#11 - Was the teepad set further back than last year? I seem to recall being able to throw a thumber onto the green last year, or at least close. Saturday, I didn't even bother to try. I think a shorter drive at the Ice Bowl would make this a very interesting hole again. Spike Hyzers, spike flick hyzers, thumbers, hammers, all can give you the chance at a two, but will hurt you if you're off line and into the schnarb around the green... Shorter throwers will still have a viable chance at the 3, with a layup in front, and a relatively easy upshot, but it'll give the bigger arms the chance to take a stroke, or lose a couple in the woods...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ben and I have been given our assignments for the morning. These are the pads we will be playing on Saturday:

1L, 2S, 3L, 4S, 5L, 6S, 7S, 8L, (9,10,11), 12S.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3L from the tree or or the real tee?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

briggs wrote:
3L from the tree or or the real tee?


Real.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefrey A. Brother wrote:
Ben and I have been given our assignments for the morning. These are the pads we will be playing on Saturday:

1L, 2S, 3L, 4S, 5L, 6S, 7S, 8L, (9,10,11), 12S.


More direction for Ben and I:

Tyrant Director wrote:
Readjust 9 so that the trees on the left come into play.

And shorten 11 so that the green is reachable on the drive.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tyrant Director wrote:
Readjust 9 so that the trees on the left come into play.

And shorten 11 so that the green is reachable on the drive.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thoughts on the IB Saturday layout?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was a perfect layout for winter frolf, the north wind spiced things up nicely.
Balanced is how I would describe it, if your drive wasn't a flick, your approach seemed to be one. Good job!
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