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PostPosted: Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:35 am    Post subject: Rules, Courses, and other stuff Reply with quote

Will the rules for this year be the same as last year?
- 4 matches to make it into the playoffs
- Playoff finalists have no say in the location
- "Permanent" courses only

I'm sorry, I tried to comb through the different topics but I was getting frustrated trying to piece together everything. Will the 2011 rules be up before the weekend (or a summary)?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, rules would be very helpful.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah,
Im in the porcess of re-doing the website and was planning on posting the minor rule changes today in the forum.

Rules for the most part are the same
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolly wrote:
yeah,
Im in the porcess of re-doing the website and was planning on posting the minor rule changes today in the forum.

Rules for the most part are the same


But I don't know the original rules.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holly D wrote:
Rolly wrote:
yeah,
Im in the porcess of re-doing the website and was planning on posting the minor rule changes today in the forum.

Rules for the most part are the same


But I don't know the original rules.


...aaaaand now I see the post in the other thread.
My bad. embarrassment
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holly D wrote:
Holly D wrote:
Rolly wrote:
yeah,
Im in the porcess of re-doing the website and was planning on posting the minor rule changes today in the forum.

Rules for the most part are the same


But I don't know the original rules.


...aaaaand now I see the post in the other thread.
My bad. embarrassment




http://sites.google.com/site/ottawamatchplayleague/rules

Here you go..


Whoops I had meant to post it in here, my bad,

this is the basic set of rules I will post the minor tweeks I still need to add in here..
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you tweaking the qualifications for the playoffs?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Changes:
New:
Tie Breaker is now:
Pts Games Played +/- then same as before after that

The final will be held at a random location in the Ottawa region. Most likely one of the established DG courses in the region.(Ettyville, Kanata, Shire, CF, etc.)


To make the playoffs you need to play a minimum of 4 games.
Those that don’t make the 4 game minimum will be ranked in order from 16th to 1st based on the normal (new)ranking system.



Modified:
From the start of the regular season to the semi final:
Any course designated as a disc golf course having 9 to 18 established individual pads and 9-18 individual targets consisting of baskets or tonal poles that are in a permanent fixture before and during the entire match until the match's end. (If your on hole 12 and someone moves 2 when you played it 10 holes ago, thats fine). See "soccer players in the course rule" for unplayable holes due to the public.

LNF course is exempt from above,




Be sure read the rules, especially newbs…
Understand the rules on the schedule, playing late games and making up late games so they count in the schedule, playing ahead of schedule etc.
Schedule rules will be enforced this year. If you have a protest about a match your trying to play but opponent is dodging you you need to let me know, Im not going to ask.

If you have a question post or PM me,
This format is not the traditional format for match play its tweeked a touch,

Relegation rules will come in the future,
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumber wrote:
Are you tweaking the qualifications for the playoffs?


Patience young wolf,
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Be sure read the rules, especially newbs…
Understand the rules on the schedule, playing late games and making up late games so they count in the schedule, playing ahead of schedule etc.
Schedule rules will be enforced this year. If you have a protest about a match your trying to play but opponent is dodging you you need to let me know, Im not going to ask.

This rule will be tweaked as C-Kyle made some good points..stay tuned, and play your matches......on time....
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most importantly...If you don't play a match by the end of the designated month then you are required to play all of your matches to make that match count....So as I said Don Lane...we have a match this month
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm thinking the 4/6 rule w GP as the 1st tiebreak should be sufficent in replacing the old rule. Players are expected to play there games within the designated month.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as appeals as to why a player has not played another player:

I will only listen to excuses that have to do with the month that the match was to be played in from the 2 parties involved. Reasons why the match was not played outside of the month it was to be played will in most circumstances not be heard. I will realise that sometimes crap will arise on the 29th of the month (which might be the last fri/sat/sun of the month) and it will not settle to a few days into the next month.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolly wrote:

To make the playoffs you need to play a minimum of 4 games.


OMPL Rules wrote:

All players shall play a minimum of six (6) matches.


Can you confirm one of these, please?


And if I don't play Deuce this month but I play him in May, it won't count until I've played all of them? So if I miss my August round, I'm actually out two rounds? Am I right? Are you willing to explain the rational behind this?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefrey A. Brother wrote:
Rolly wrote:

To make the playoffs you need to play a minimum of 4 games.


OMPL Rules wrote:

All players shall play a minimum of six (6) matches.




Yes, you have 6 matches in your schedule, you need to finish 4 of them to make the playoffs....

The other question we are trying to find a soluton for. As it stands right now there is a flaw in the rules. Read what C-Kyle wrote.
Do you have a solution?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jefrey A. Brother wrote:
And if I don't play Deuce this month but I play him in May, it won't count until I've played all of them? So if I miss my August round, I'm actually out two rounds? Am I right? Are you willing to explain the rational behind this?



The rational behind it is to get people to play matches on time. If you play late, then this is the penalty for it. Remember you can always play your august round, and any other round early.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

C- kyle brought it up to me that he thinks the rule is unfair. If his opponent dodges him for this month he said that he is forced to play the rest of his schedule out to have that match count when he is not at fault. He has a point I agree.

The best solution I have (and I hope to get some suggestions) is to get rid of the rule where a player must playout the rest of his schedule to make the late games count.
Change the new rule to:
Players are expected to follow the schedule on time.
If a match is missed it can be made up at any time before the end of the regular season. Also matches can be played early, and its encouraged.
If there is a disagreement as to why the match was not played in the season, I will only listen to reasoning that has to do with the month the match was to be played in.
So in C-K's example, if Don does not want to play in April (hypothetical, dont know the exact deets), and C-kyle does not want to play in May, June, July or Aug, by simply saying no I don’t want to play today Don cant make him, thus C-Kyle winning by default. Of course the match can be made up late and honesty and common sense prevailing , but the root of the issue is the match not being held in the month designated for it.
Harsh but why? As the commissioner I can only assign penalty and must make decision based on the way things are supposed to be. The fact is the match is supposed to be held in April according to the rules. If one player is more then willing to play by the rules and the other is not, there is no way the innocent party can be held accountable or the guilty party give reasoning and make a claim as to why the match was not played later in the summer.


Again this is an Idea, more input would be great,

As it stands now the old rule is still in effect. Claims for non-played matches will only be heard with reasoning which has to do with the month in question. Claims for unplayed matches can be made at any point in the season as there is no specific timeline that these are to be made. Of course you must wait until the month is over…


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your wondering last year I turned a blind eye to this rule. By May I think there were a total of 4 matches finished and things looked dismall.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So
I have a match in April. I'm away.
Jess wants to play Fortune, but will be out of town for Install Weekend. Her work hours do not allow for weekday play, and I'm out of town the last weekend of April. (I'm willing to play other courses to get the match in this month)
Let's say we had our match the first week of May, but I missed a match later in the season. Will I be doubly penalised for "missing" the April match?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Holly D wrote:
So
I have a match in April. I'm away.
Jess wants to play Fortune, but will be out of town for Install Weekend.

Arrange matches around your personal life

Holly D wrote:

Her work hours do not allow for weekday play, and I'm out of town the last weekend of April. (I'm willing to play other courses to get the match in this month)

Arrange matches around personal life
Holly D wrote:

Let's say we had our match the first week of May, but I missed a match later in the season. Will I be doubly penalised for "missing" the April match?


The answer as of now is yes.
Sometimes we cant arrange the perfect match where we want to play because of personal life and timing. This is an example of the importance the schedule draw can be, the april game is full of limited choices for most, and it can be a game changer
Div 2 will probably be that you have to play ¾ matches to make the playoffs. I am planning on finishing the process of the fine details for div 2 this week. As of now, play your games, win, and everyone is making the playoffs if you play your games.

Also the rules on relegation and promotion from league to league will be written out in detail.


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