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July 1st - Etty Longs
Wow. We've never played the long tees for a TOSS... |
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| Sooooooo excited. Longs are long in ettyville. What's with Kanata 27? I gotta start making arrangements now to free up Tuesday nights. Who wants to play our match July 1st? |
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lissyssil
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Mixing it up, keeping it exciting...
re Kanata 27:
I wanted to put a mid-season event at Kanata. The dilemma I had was that Kanata plays fast. Which means we'd be wasting light by playing at Kanata in the long evenings. Simple solution: We play 27 holes.  Three hours, 22 minutes for 27 holes, Short/Long/Short, should be sufficient. I'll gauge it against the time required for the two 18 hole rounds that precede the event. That's why that event remains unconfirmed, is that I need the proof first that we can complete 27 holes in daylight.
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Short Long and Black tees!
As long as we only have 2 cards, no soccer players, no baseball players it will work lol
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lissyssil
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Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered!
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| lissyssil wrote: | | Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered! |
I'll show them to you, but they are inappropriate for TOSS. Way too much cross over and danger potential
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lissyssil
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Is there a potential for a third set of tees that flow well at Kanata?
1. Tee off from near 9 basket.
2. ?
3. Tee off near Soccer field past 2 basket.
4. Tee off from 3 shorts.
5. Hard enough as is...
6. Tee off between 5 and 7 basket.
7. Tee off somewhere near the statue.
8. As normal.
9. Tee off from on the rock.
Just a thought... Let's have some opinions!
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| lissyssil wrote: | | Just a thought... Let's have some opinions! |
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| Thumber wrote: | | lissyssil wrote: | | Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered! |
I'll show them to you, but they are inappropriate for TOSS. Way too much cross over and danger potential |
Please don't add guerilla courses to TOSS. TOSS should be a venue for players to prepare for a course or layout, and test their DG mettle against their peers on a weekly basis. |
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Thumber
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| bbp wrote: | | Thumber wrote: | | lissyssil wrote: | | Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered! |
I'll show them to you, but they are inappropriate for TOSS. Way too much cross over and danger potential |
Please don't add guerilla courses to TOSS. TOSS should be a venue for players to prepare for a course or layout, and test their DG mettle against their peers on a weekly basis. |
agreed
for the 27, consider short, long, best of
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| Thumber wrote: |
for the 27, consider short, long, best of |
What are the Best of Kanata?
1 L
2 L
3 L
4 S
5 S
6 S
7 L
8 L
9 S
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lissyssil
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| bbp wrote: | | Thumber wrote: |
for the 27, consider short, long, best of |
What are the Best of Kanata?
1 L
2 L
3 L
4 S
5 S
6 S
7 L
8 L
9 S
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I agree with everything except 1. Distance-wise, 1 short and 1 long are essentially the same hole. Angle of curvature, 1 long and 1 short are essentially the same hole. The difference is in the trees just beyond the teepad, and I'd suggest that 1 short is a "better" hole, because it allows a much wider selection of shots to attempt to run the basket. From the long tee, the flick, or a very delicate turnover are probably the only options. From the shorts, there's the flick, the less finicky turnover (that can still land you in deep trouble for a 2), the tight turnover/straight-at-it buzz shot, and the thumber. Each comes with it's own risk/reward ratio.
I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that, with distance and angle of approach being equal, the longs limits the throws that a player can choose from.
Which might be good or bad, depending on your attitude.
For the record, Kanata Twenty-7 will most likely be S/L/S, if it happens.
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| lissyssil wrote: |
I agree with everything except 1. Distance-wise, 1 short and 1 long are essentially the same hole. Angle of curvature, 1 long and 1 short are essentially the same hole. The difference is in the trees just beyond the teepad, and I'd suggest that 1 short is a "better" hole, because it allows a much wider selection of shots to attempt to run the basket. From the long tee, the flick, or a very delicate turnover are probably the only options. From the shorts, there's the flick, the less finicky turnover (that can still land you in deep trouble for a 2), the tight turnover/straight-at-it buzz shot, and the thumber. Each comes with it's own risk/reward ratio.
I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that, with distance and angle of approach being equal, the longs limits the throws that a player can choose from.
Which might be good or bad, depending on your attitude.
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You put a lot more thought into it than I did. |
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Mark, One of the reasons we traditionally avoided kanata in mid Summer is because the place is crawling with little kids when there are 2 soccer games per field x 2 fields plus baseball. It may not be fast at all. Something to think about.
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| lissyssil wrote: | Mixing it up, keeping it exciting...
re Kanata 27:
I wanted to put a mid-season event at Kanata. The dilemma I had was that Kanata plays fast. Which means we'd be wasting light by playing at Kanata in the long evenings. Simple solution: We play 27 holes. Three hours, 22 minutes for 27 holes, Short/Long/Short, should be sufficient. I'll gauge it against the time required for the two 18 hole rounds that precede the event. That's why that event remains unconfirmed, is that I need the proof first that we can complete 27 holes in daylight. |
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John Pytel
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:56 pm Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 |
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| bbp wrote: | July 1st - Etty Longs
Wow. We've never played the long tees for a TOSS... |
We may finish in time for fireworks though...
I'm hoping that he's got an early start in mind. With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have. |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:00 pm Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 |
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| John Pytel wrote: |
I'm hoping that he's got an early start in mind. With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have. |
He's got start times on the schedule too.
Canada day at Ettyville!
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| clausr wrote: | Mark, One of the reasons we traditionally avoided kanata in mid Summer is because the place is crawling with little kids when there are 2 soccer games per field x 2 fields plus baseball. It may not be fast at all. Something to think about.
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It's a good thing we don't play on the soccer fields or baseball diamond then!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:13 pm Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 |
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| andros wrote: | | John Pytel wrote: |
I'm hoping that he's got an early start in mind. With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have. |
He's got start times on the schedule too.
Canada day at Ettyville! |
I'm sure Mark will listen, evaluate, and make adjustments.
It's a national holiday so you'd think we SHOULD tee off sooner then 5:30. If you want to get your round in. Maybe it'll be the "buy who you don't want on your card" night? lol |
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| Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:40 pm Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 |
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| John Pytel wrote: | | ...With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have. |
That layout can definitely seperate the men from the boys. Just ask Phillips.  |
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