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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:53 pm    Post subject: TOSS 2014 Reply with quote

July 1st - Etty Longs

Wow. We've never played the long tees for a TOSS...
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sooooooo excited. Longs are long in ettyville. What's with Kanata 27? I gotta start making arrangements now to free up Tuesday nights. Who wants to play our match July 1st?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mixing it up, keeping it exciting...

re Kanata 27:

I wanted to put a mid-season event at Kanata. The dilemma I had was that Kanata plays fast. Which means we'd be wasting light by playing at Kanata in the long evenings. Simple solution: We play 27 holes. smile Three hours, 22 minutes for 27 holes, Short/Long/Short, should be sufficient. I'll gauge it against the time required for the two 18 hole rounds that precede the event. That's why that event remains unconfirmed, is that I need the proof first that we can complete 27 holes in daylight.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Short Long and Black tees!

As long as we only have 2 cards, no soccer players, no baseball players it will work lol
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lissyssil wrote:
Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered!


I'll show them to you, but they are inappropriate for TOSS. Way too much cross over and danger potential
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there a potential for a third set of tees that flow well at Kanata?

1. Tee off from near 9 basket.
2. ?
3. Tee off near Soccer field past 2 basket.
4. Tee off from 3 shorts.
5. Hard enough as is...
6. Tee off between 5 and 7 basket.
7. Tee off somewhere near the statue.
8. As normal.
9. Tee off from on the rock.

Just a thought... Let's have some opinions!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

lissyssil wrote:
Just a thought... Let's have some opinions!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumber wrote:
lissyssil wrote:
Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered!


I'll show them to you, but they are inappropriate for TOSS. Way too much cross over and danger potential


Please don't add guerilla courses to TOSS. TOSS should be a venue for players to prepare for a course or layout, and test their DG mettle against their peers on a weekly basis.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbp wrote:
Thumber wrote:
lissyssil wrote:
Show me the blacks, and they'll be considered!


I'll show them to you, but they are inappropriate for TOSS. Way too much cross over and danger potential


Please don't add guerilla courses to TOSS. TOSS should be a venue for players to prepare for a course or layout, and test their DG mettle against their peers on a weekly basis.


agreed

for the 27, consider short, long, best of
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumber wrote:


for the 27, consider short, long, best of


thumbsup

What are the Best of Kanata?

1 L
2 L
3 L
4 S
5 S
6 S
7 L
8 L
9 S

laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbp wrote:
Thumber wrote:


for the 27, consider short, long, best of


thumbsup

What are the Best of Kanata?

1 L
2 L
3 L
4 S
5 S
6 S
7 L
8 L
9 S

laughing


I agree with everything except 1. Distance-wise, 1 short and 1 long are essentially the same hole. Angle of curvature, 1 long and 1 short are essentially the same hole. The difference is in the trees just beyond the teepad, and I'd suggest that 1 short is a "better" hole, because it allows a much wider selection of shots to attempt to run the basket. From the long tee, the flick, or a very delicate turnover are probably the only options. From the shorts, there's the flick, the less finicky turnover (that can still land you in deep trouble for a 2), the tight turnover/straight-at-it buzz shot, and the thumber. Each comes with it's own risk/reward ratio.

I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that, with distance and angle of approach being equal, the longs limits the throws that a player can choose from.

Which might be good or bad, depending on your attitude.

For the record, Kanata Twenty-7 will most likely be S/L/S, if it happens.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

9 L
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

lissyssil wrote:

I agree with everything except 1. Distance-wise, 1 short and 1 long are essentially the same hole. Angle of curvature, 1 long and 1 short are essentially the same hole. The difference is in the trees just beyond the teepad, and I'd suggest that 1 short is a "better" hole, because it allows a much wider selection of shots to attempt to run the basket. From the long tee, the flick, or a very delicate turnover are probably the only options. From the shorts, there's the flick, the less finicky turnover (that can still land you in deep trouble for a 2), the tight turnover/straight-at-it buzz shot, and the thumber. Each comes with it's own risk/reward ratio.

I guess the point I'm trying to make here is that, with distance and angle of approach being equal, the longs limits the throws that a player can choose from.

Which might be good or bad, depending on your attitude.



You put a lot more thought into it than I did. laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark, One of the reasons we traditionally avoided kanata in mid Summer is because the place is crawling with little kids when there are 2 soccer games per field x 2 fields plus baseball. It may not be fast at all. Something to think about.

Claus



lissyssil wrote:
Mixing it up, keeping it exciting...

re Kanata 27:

I wanted to put a mid-season event at Kanata. The dilemma I had was that Kanata plays fast. Which means we'd be wasting light by playing at Kanata in the long evenings. Simple solution: We play 27 holes. smile Three hours, 22 minutes for 27 holes, Short/Long/Short, should be sufficient. I'll gauge it against the time required for the two 18 hole rounds that precede the event. That's why that event remains unconfirmed, is that I need the proof first that we can complete 27 holes in daylight.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 12:56 pm    Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 Reply with quote

bbp wrote:
July 1st - Etty Longs

Wow. We've never played the long tees for a TOSS...


We may finish in time for fireworks though...

I'm hoping that he's got an early start in mind. With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:00 pm    Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 Reply with quote

John Pytel wrote:

I'm hoping that he's got an early start in mind. With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have.


He's got start times on the schedule too.

Canada day at Ettyville!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

clausr wrote:
Mark, One of the reasons we traditionally avoided kanata in mid Summer is because the place is crawling with little kids when there are 2 soccer games per field x 2 fields plus baseball. It may not be fast at all. Something to think about.

Claus

It's a good thing we don't play on the soccer fields or baseball diamond then!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 Reply with quote

andros wrote:
John Pytel wrote:

I'm hoping that he's got an early start in mind. With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have.


He's got start times on the schedule too.

Canada day at Ettyville!


I'm sure Mark will listen, evaluate, and make adjustments.

It's a national holiday so you'd think we SHOULD tee off sooner then 5:30. If you want to get your round in. Maybe it'll be the "buy who you don't want on your card" night? lol
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:40 pm    Post subject: Re: TOSS 2014 Reply with quote

John Pytel wrote:
...With the right amount of time that'd be a challenging round. Something not many have played in singles play. I never have.


That layout can definitely seperate the men from the boys. Just ask Phillips. being evil
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