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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:39 am    Post subject: King of the Oonie 2010 - Players Meeting and Results Reply with quote

PLAYERS MEETING

Tee Times and Starting Holes

I had a grade 5 student pull names from a hat and as you were pulled you were put into twosomes.

Hole 8 Starts

9:00 am - Cyle Prange vs. Kyle Fisher

9:10 am - Serge Seguin vs. Ben Svetkoff

9:20 am - Jeff Lariviere vs. Andrew Vallee

Hole 2 Starts

9:05 am - Don Lane vs. Geoff Penton

9:15 am - Colin McDonald vs. Rob Doucette

9:25 am - Shane Kilpatrick vs. Geoff Rowland

The first person is in charge of making sure that there is a score card among them.

General

Be at your starting tee for your start time.

You are traveling in twosomes.

We are playing The Kanata Disc Golf Course, Kanata, Ontario. To guarantee a renewal of our agreement the City of Ottawa, the ODGC Course Design Committee needed to redesign the front area of the course to accomdate the new CSIS building that popped up on the fairway of #9. We will be playing these changed holes.



I've altered the numbering of the redesigned holes to keep things simple and to keep the numbers of all the other holes correct.

Here is the pre-CSIS building Kanata Disc Golf Course layout. Holes #2 - #7 are the same.



First Round will be Kanata Shorts. Holes numbered 2, 3, and 7 will be “island” holes. Paint and flags will be used to mark the edge of the islands.

Second Round will be Kanata Longs. There will be no island holes during this round. {EDIT: There will be NO byes in the second round}

Third Round will be Kanata Longs island features in play. There will a bye in the third round (the rules governing byes are explained in the 17th post on the first page of the Oonie thread.

Championship Round will be 2 rounds of nine holes (Kanata Shorts followed by Kanata Longs). Island holes will be in play for BOTH rounds.

If at the end of 9 holes - for Rounds 1-3 - there is a tie, the match will continue to the next hole in numercial order and proceed in numerical order until a hole is won outright. Sudden death, if you will. And you will.

If at the end of the Championship Round 18 holes there is a tie, the match will continue Sudden Death style, starting at 2009 #1 Longs, 2009 #8 Longs, 2009 #9 Longs (yes really), then start at 2009 #1 Shorts, 2009 #8 Shorts, 2009 #9 Longs (come on, you actually thought I’d make you play the shorts of #9?!? You’re crazy).

You need only play the amount of holes needed to determine a winner. There are no ties.

$10 Registration fee + $2 a round you play.

Loonie tournie will happen right after the first round.


Holing Out

Quote:
803.13 Holing Out

B. Disc Entrapment Devices: In order to hole out, the thrower must release the disc and it must come to rest supported by the chains or within one of the entrapment sections. This includes a disc wedged into or hanging from the lower entrapment section but excludes a disc resting on top of, or hanging outside of, the upper entrapment section. The disc must also remain within the chains or entrapment sections until removed.

Your opponent may also pick your disc up and concede a hole.

OB

We will be trying some different rules when it comes to “OB”.

Stay in the Park Rule.

If your disc leaves the park you must re-throw from your previous lie. You are not allowed to play your next shot from: A lie that is up to one meter away from and perpendicular to the point where the disc last crossed into out-of-bounds.

If your disc comes to a rest on a road – it has left the park - you must re-throw from your previous lie. You are not allowed to play your next shot from: A lie that is up to one meter away from and perpendicular to the point where the disc last crossed into out-of-bounds.

If you end up over the path and the chain-link-fence, that is in middle of the cedar hedge, along #9 and #1, you have left the park, and you must re-throw from your previous lie. You are not allowed to play your next shot from: A lie that is up to one meter away from and perpendicular to the point where the disc last crossed into out-of-bounds.

Going over the path (and staying on the park side of the chain link fence) is still in the park, but is still “OB” (OB In The Park) and you may use any of the disc golf rules governing OB.
Quote:
B. A player whose disc is considered out-of-bounds shall receive one penalty throw. The player may elect to play the next shot from:
(1) The previous lie as evidenced by the marker disc or, if the marker disc has been moved from an approximate lie, as agreed to by the majority of the group or an official;
or (2) A lie that is up to one meter away from and perpendicular to the point where the disc last crossed into out-of-bounds, as determined by a majority of the group or an official. This holds true even if the direction takes the lie closer to the hole;
or (3) Within the designated Drop Zone, if provided. These options may be limited by the tournament director as a special condition (see 804.01).
There will be no Drop Zones provided.

Having your disc come to rest on the track (on #5 and possibly #4) is considered OB In The Park and can be treated with any of the disc golf rules governing OB.

The fence on #7 will not be considered for an OB line. During Round 1, Round 3 and the Championship Round, the island will be in play.

The baseball diamond will be IB and play as it lies - unless there are OPU (other park users) using the area, then it will be OB In The Park and can be treated with the disc golf rules governing OB.

When playing the “island” holes and your disc does not come to rest on an island you must re-throw from your previous lie. You are not allowed to play your next shot from: A lie that is up to one meter away from and perpendicular to the point where the disc last crossed into out-of-bounds.

The Rough

Quote:

803.05 Obstacles and Relief
A. Obstacles to a Stance or Throwing Motion: Players must choose a stance which results in the least movement of any part of any obstacle except as allowed for casual obstacles by 803.05 C. No relief is granted from park equipment (such as signs, trash cans, picnic tables, etc.) as they are considered part of the course. Once a legal stance is taken, a player may not move an obstacle (or hold it back or bend it) in order to make room for a throwing motion. It is legal for a player’s throwing motion to make incidental movement of an obstacle.

B. Obstacles Between the Lie and Hole: A player may not move, alter, bend, break, or hold back any part of any obstacle, including casual obstacles, between the lie and the hole, with one exception: A player may move obstacles between the lie and the hole that became a factor during the round, such as spectators, players’ equipment, open gates, or branches that fell during the round. Where it is not known if an obstacle has become a factor during a round, it shall not be moved. It is legal for a player’s throwing motion to make incidental movement of an obstacle.

C. Casual Obstacles: A player may obtain relief only from the following obstacles: casual water, loose leaves or debris, broken branches no longer connected to a tree, motor vehicles, harmful insects or animals, players’ equipment, spectators, or any item or area specifically designated by the director before the round. Obstacles may not be moved if any part of the obstacle is between the lie and the hole. The type of relief a player may obtain is based on the location of the obstacle and is limited as follows:
(1) Casual obstacles between the lie and the hole: A player may move obstacles which became a factor during the round as described by 803.05 B.
(2) Casual obstacles to stance or throwing motion: The player must first attempt to remove the obstacle unless a portion of the obstacle is also between the lie and the hole. If it is impractical to move the obstacle, or if a portion of the obstacle is also between the lie and the hole, the player’s lie may be relocated to the nearest lie which is no closer to the hole, is on the line of play, and is not more than five meters from the original lie, as agreed to by a majority of the group or an official (unless greater casual relief is announced by the director). Alternatively, the player may declare an unplayable lie and proceed in accordance with 803.06.
(3) Casual obstacles to a run-up: The player may move the obstacle provided no part of the obstacle is between the lie and the hole. No other relief is provided.

D. In situations where it is unclear if an object may be moved or other relief obtained, it shall be determined by a majority of the group or an official.

E. A player shall receive one penalty throw, without a warning, for violation of an obstacle or relief rule.

F. A player who purposely damages anything on the course shall receive two penalty throws, without a warning, if observed by two or more players of the group or an official. The player may also be disqualified from the tournament, in accordance with section 804.05 A (2).


Other Rules of Disc Golf

As we all know, most DG rules are inforced with "two or more players" needed to call anything. This will be impossible as we are traveling in twosomes. So be honest and be fair and be aware of your actions.

Lunch

There’s a pizza joint around the corner from the course. If people are interested we can order from there. This would be above the registration fee and Twoonie paying. This will be my (and Ben's) choice for lunch.

And All the Other Stuff

You need TWOONIES!! And a Ten $$ bill. But you really need TWOONIES!! (You'll only need 5 Twoonies to go all the way, but if you don't go all the way you'll need Loonies as well.)

And if you're not a current ODGC Member you will need +$5 (+$8 ODSA Insurance). We will be accepting 2010 Dues at the Oonie, and Andros will have shiny new ORANGE tags.

The Players Meeting thread will officially be closed at 5 pm on Friday. There will be no more information posted after this time. Any more info that I become aware of will be posted on the Kanata DGC main sign, Saturday morning.

If you have any questions, comments, need clarification or have concerns please do not hesitate to PM me.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FAQ

Well maybe not freqently asked questions, but someone asked.

Question/Concern:

Just the track or the track and the old gravel running beside the track. It is half grass and half gravel with unclear lines. Don't want this to become an issue

Answer:

There is an asphalt curb that runs along the sides of the track. This will be the OB line for the track. In places were the curb is not as apparent, Andros painted a green OB line. Anything coming to rest on the track, or in the middle of the track (football field) will also be considered OB In The Park.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 28, 2010 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question/Concern:

2m rule?

Answer:

Nope.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andros and I went out last night and marked the islands for 2, 3, and 7. We've allowed for "over cookers" to be "safe" by ending up in the rough. If you end up in the rough behind any of the holes you are safe and you just have to fight out of the thorny jail. All good.



As you can see, 2 and 7 share the same island. This was done to save any hassles that might arise if you land on the other's island.



Islands are in play rounds 1 and 3, and the Championship Round.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please note the change to the answer for OB on 5.

Jefrey A. Brother wrote:
FAQ

Well maybe not freqently asked questions, but someone asked.

Question/Concern:

Just the track or the track and the old gravel running beside the track. It is half grass and half gravel with unclear lines. Don't want this to become an issue

Answer:

There is an asphalt curb that runs along the sides of the track. This will be the OB line for the track. In places were the curb is not as apparent, Andros painted a green OB line. Anything coming to rest on the track, or in the middle of the track (football field) will also be considered OB In The Park.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.A.B. wrote:
If you have any questions, comments, need clarification or have concerns please do not hesitate to PM me.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the sudden appearance of islands on 3 of the holes - plate tectonics, what can you do - there may be some issues arising when a player may throw, and it's not for certain if the disc came to rest within the line that defines the border of the island. So to save time and the added walk a player has the option to take a PROVISIONAL throw.

PDGA wrote:
803.01 General

...
C. Provisional Throws. Provisional throws are extra throws that are not added to a player's score if they are not ultimately used in completion of the hole. The use of provisional throws is encouraged in all situations where there is a question regarding a thrower's lie and a provisional would speed play or when the thrower questions the group's or official's ruling. The unused throws shall not be added to the thrower's score nor treated as practice throws if the player announces that such additional throws are made as provisional throws prior to taking them. Provisional throws are appropriate in the following circumstances:

(1) To save time: A player may declare a provisional throw any time (a) the status of a disc cannot immediately be determined, and (b) the majority of the group agrees that playing a provisional throw may save time, and (c) the original throw may be out of bounds, lost, or have missed a mandatory. When proceeding under this type of provisional the thrower shall complete the hole from whichever of the two throws is deemed by the group or an official as the appropriate lie according to the rules.
(2) To appeal the group's or an official's ruling: A set of provisional throws may be taken to complete a hole pursuant to 803.01 D(3) when the player disagrees with the majority group decision and an official is not readily available, or if the player wishes to appeal the decision of an official. The scores from both sets of throws shall be recorded. The proper ruling and score are then determined by the director at the end of the round.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you miss an island, or you land OB, you ARE NOT allowed to retrieve your disc and use it again to make the penalty throw (unless you are putting - within 30' of the basket).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2010 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The King of the Oonie

Possible Point Allocation Tables

PLACEPC Points
1
2
3
4
4
4
7
7
7
7
7
7
600
480
374
300
300
300
194
194
194
194
194
194


If the player who gains the 3rd Round Bye wins, the above allocation will work. If the 3rd Round Bye player loses there will be a tie for second place and there will be no 3rd place finisher.

PLACEPC Points
1
2
2
4
4
4
7
7
7
7
7
7
600
480
480
300
300
300
194
194
194
194
194
194
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On-line Players' Meeting is closed. Any concerns or questions can be addressed tomorrow morning.

See you tomorrow.

King Geoffrey
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cyle Prange vs. Kyle Fisher

Serge Seguin vs. Ben Svetkoff

Jeff Lariviere vs. Andrew Vallee

Don Lane vs. Geoff Penton

Colin McDonald vs. Rob Doucette

Shane Kilpatrick vs. Geoff Rowland
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Serge Seguin vs. Geoff Penton

Cyle Prange vs. Andrew Vallee

Geoff Rowland vs. Rob Doucette
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geoff Rowland vs. Geoff Penton

Andrew Vallee BYE
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2010 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

KING Andrew Vallee vs. Geoff Penton


Congratulations King Andrew!!!
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