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Did you like the hazard/drop zone for A-Hole at The Plaid Jacket 2009?
Yes
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No
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BigBrotherPenton
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:20 am    Post subject: Plaid Jacket A-Hole Hazard Reply with quote

How did players find the "hazard" ruling on A-Hole at the Plaid? Did anyone witness a hazard 2?

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When we played that hole , my disc landed at the front of the pile , if I flipped my disc over , it was over the line ( 8 feet from pin..)...had to putt from behind the pile , skipped off the top of the basket , rolled under the trees , no shot for my 3rd shot, had to settle for a 4...

and Ken beat me by a stroke...

I know I should have not put it there in the first place - didn't do that the second time around.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was an interesting twist. really you have no business being in it. A confident hyzer putter is all that was needed. there was plenty of room to get in.

It won't matter in future years as the pile will be cleaned up.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It was an interesting twist , my own fault really....
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it played well. A couple of my card mates went in there and had a put for 2 but made 3 in the end. I think the objective of not having anyone put from in there was met and it made the hole interesting.

Have the pile be OB would have been too much of a penalty.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After seeing it I would have prefered putting from the brush. Both times I was only a couple of feet over the line, but only had 15 footers for birdie. Par'd it both times.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As Claus said, an OB penalty for something so close to the pin would not be very fair, so given the circumstances, the way Geoff set it up for us was a good solution. For a short hole with an unprotected basket, the bush-drop zone at least made the hole interesting. Without having to go to the drop zone, players could have used the brush pile as a backstop and just fired into it without having to put touch on their throw...
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought player should have had a choice if obstacle is not OB.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolly wrote:
I thought player should have had a choice if obstacle is not OB.
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No it was stated as a Hazard and thus you had to take the lift to the drop zone
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For a simple hole, I had a variety of experiences: parked it first round, got wet trying to avoid it second round and had to take the drop (which ended up as a four after my upshot lipped the basket and ended up deep in the bush!) in the Super 9.

I thought it was a great solution to the problem but it's not something I would hope to find on a course.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can see people voting "No they don't like it" because no one wants a pile of brush on their fairway.

However given the circumstance that it was there, what would be better?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I liked it.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clausr wrote:
I can see people voting "No they don't like it" because no one wants a pile of brush on their fairway.

However given the circumstance that it was there, what would be better?


Play it as is. It's not that much different than if I threw my disc past the basket into the woods. I'm guessing the reason it was declared a hazard is that it was actually hazardous to go crawling around in there. I am fine with the way it played out on the weekend though. Never really thought too much about it until now.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was lucky to birdie in both rounds but in round 2 one person on my card (Kyle) drove OB because his disc was on the line, right at the front of the pile. The painted line was not clear and it took all players on the card to mull it over and finally vote that it was OB. I felt bad but felt it was the right decision. It sucked for Kyle though who lost the easy birdie. I guess I didn't mind the hole rule so much but I wish the line had been clearer.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 11:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would not have been OB. The decision would simply be if it was in the hazard or not. i hope you didn't stroke him for it
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thumber wrote:
It would not have been OB. The decision would simply be if it was in the hazard or not. i hope you didn't stroke him for it

No stroke, but he had to play from the DZ.
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