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Paul Bourgeois
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: TOSS [10] Camp Fortune Longs 2006-07-11 Reply with quote

This week's event marks the beginning of the fourth Quartback Challenge of the season, and it is going to be the last time that we play the long teepads at Camp Fortune this season. As usual, the round will start at 6:30pm sharp, with registration closing at 6:15. We'll meet in the parking lot below the chairlift near the 18th teepads.

As mentioned in so many other recent threads on this board, Camp Fortune is looking absolutely awesome right now, so you won't want to miss this event!

New players are always welcome on Tuesday nights. You don't need a player handicap to participate in a Tuesday night event. If you haven't played Camp Fortune before, please note that good footwear is a must (ie hiking shoes). As always, registration fees are $6 for members with player handicaps, and $3 for everyone else. All are eligable for the Quarterback Challenge.

Player handicaps for this event will be posted shortly.


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Paul Bourgeois
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cards will be seeded in random order for this event. Player handicaps for tomorrow are as follows:
Last First Handicap
Bason Mark 12
Bourgeois Paul 12
Burgoin Chris 16
Darcovich Ken 9
Dobrev Stefan 3
Doucette Dan 15
Fowler Mike 19
Heard Pat 9
Heginbottom James 11
Lane Don 10
Lariviere Jeff 12
Leach Andrew 12
Legare Pierre 20
Lepack Jason 10
Leslie Robyne 23
McCormick Mike 14
McDonald Colin 8
Meldrum Jeff 5
Myre Stephane 18
Pengelly Arthur 10
Pengelly Dawn 15
Penton Geoff 7
Pinches Craig 19
Rancourt Marc 8
Reitlingshoefer Claus 8
Rowland Geoff 9
Schnobb Gavin 15
Seguin Serge 15
Sivyer Stacie 16
Stott Brett 10
Svetkoff Ben 14
Vinet Eric 10
Visser Carl 7
Wormald Rob 9
Wright Ben 23
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

7 - what do I need to shoot to go down?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBrotherPenton wrote:
7 - what do I need to shoot to go down?

A 57 will do it for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What would I have to shoot to go 2 down?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on Paul! You've been on line for at least 3 minutes. Don't you have this stuff written down right at your computer?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It isn't possible for you to go two down tomorrow. A scratch round would bring your average to 6.08. You could go two down if you shoot scratch (51) this week, and get a really low score next week too.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not impossible. If I shoot better than scratch...
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Paul Bourgeois
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BigBrotherPenton wrote:
It's not impossible. If I shoot better than scratch...


You can shoot better than scratch, but your round differential stops at 0 and does not enter the set of numbers known as the negative real domain. paranoid

While you can play better than scratch, you can't handicap a score better than scratch. This is why you can't go down two strokes tonight.

A quick little FYI,
looking at the round ratings for the Capital Classic, scratch was coming in somewhere between 51 and 52.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul,

Will Capital Classic rounds get factored into the equation for the handicaps, or will it just be Tuesday Night rounds from now on?

Not sure if it would make any difference to mine, but just curious as I still don't understand all this formula stuff.

Cheers,
PEACH
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peach, and all that competed at the Capital Classic:

because the capital classic layout was a departure from the layout that we have been playing through the course of the Tuesday night league, a quick comparison of the results is not possible without revaluating the course handicaps. Specific differences included:
  • a new long teepad on hole #1;
  • OB island on hole #4; and
  • I'm not sure what else, but keeping to one layout is essential for comparative results, and you are welcome to list what else was different here.
For these reasons, the rounds that were played at the Capital Classic will not be rolled into your player handicap record (the World's Biggest tournament played at the beginning of the season followed the JCP blue and yellow layouts exactly, so these rounds were rolled into the player handicap records).


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The differences in the layout were negligible, and the raw data which could be used to better hone the ratings of local players, over three rounds at a near identical course would be statistically significant to improve the accuracy of the current player handicaps.

You've used a lot of assumptions along the way to your course ratings... this one is within a similar margin of error. If you consider a layout to be 105% (for example) more difficult that a standard layout, just build in that statistical adjustment to your formulae.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree with Don on this one.

The inaccuracies due to small number of counted rounds (and rounding!) seem to me much higher then the differences incurred due to unsignificant changes to two holes (how much easier/tougher is the new long teepad on #1 compared to the old one?, how many people went short OB on the island hole?).
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

2006-07-11
Course: Camp Fortune Longs
Conditions: Partly Cloudy
Temperature: 26°C
Winds: 5-10km/hr

12 players played three-to-a-card and enjoyed an excellent evening of disc golf at Camp Fortune.

Scores were as follows:
Rank Player Total
1 Dobrev, Stefan 56
1 Penton, Geoff 56
3 Meldrum, Jeff 57
4 Vinet, Eric 58
5 Visser, Carl 59
6 Rowland, Geoff 61
7 Svetkoff, Ben 67
8 Bourgeois, Paul 68
9 Doucette, Dan 69
9 Lariviere, Jeff 69
11 Leach, Andrew 70
12 Myre, Stephane 71

Adjusted for player handicaps, the net scores were as follows:
Rank Last First Handicap Gross Net
1 Vinet Eric 10 58 48
2 Penton Geoff 7 56 49
3 Meldrum Jeff 5 57 52
3 Visser Carl 7 59 52
3 Rowland Geoff 9 61 52
6 Dobrev Stefan 3 56 53
6 Svetkoff Ben 14 67 53
6 Myre Stephane 18 71 53
9 Doucette Dan 15 69 54
10 Bourgeois Paul 12 68 56
11 Lariviere Jeff 12 69 57
12 Leach Andrew 12 70 58

Eric Vinet walked away with the best net round of the evening and $24 cash. Geoff Penton found 2nd place low net honours and $12.

Quarterback Standings for the fourth Quarterback Challenge of the season are:
Rank Last First 1st Round 2nd Round 3rd Round Total
1 Penton Geoff 56 56
1 Dobrev Stefan 56 56
3 Meldrum Jeff 57 57
4 Vinet Eric 58 58
5 Visser Carl 59 59
6 Rowland Geoff 61 61
7 Svetkoff Ben 67 67
8 Bourgeois Paul 68 68
9 Doucette Dan 69 69
9 Lariviere Jeff 69 69
11 Leach Andrew 70 70
12 Myre Stephane 71 71


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