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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:29 pm    Post subject: Great explanation by Nate Sexton of how to throw Reply with quote

http://youtu.be/U0gzNIRxRbY
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That was good. I agree with everything he said and his comparison to breaking down a door in a fire was awesome. He's teaching off your toe and not your heel, too. Good watch.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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... He's teaching off your toe and not your heel, too. Good watch.


Why is that good? Heel seems better for throwing power & your knee health.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMR wrote:
bbp wrote:
... He's teaching off your toe and not your heel, too. Good watch.


Why is that good? Heel seems better for throwing power & your knee health.


Not my knee health, that's for sure. The year that I tried going to a heel pivot was the worse my knee ever went through. Didn't improve my distance. Hurt my accuracy.

Differing opinions I guess.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why is that good?



It's good because it allows your hips to rotate in a fully open state, unblocking the follow-through and permitting seamless acceleration from foot, to legs, hips, torso, shoulder, arm, then wrist. Maximum release speed,
max distance, which is presumably what most players are seeking.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This season I had played a round and knew that something was wrong because my right knee was feeling like it was getting a workout.

Being a lefty this is an awkward thing.

I suspect that I am doing this "braking".
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you watch Shusterick, Koling or Wiggins you will see the heel pivot still. They have their hip orientation correct, but they release the pivot very late in their throw. Koling describes it as using your plant foot to load up prior to releasing all the energy from your drive. I am sure that is bad on the legs if done incorrectly.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been trying it but can't get the accuracy either. Plus I have to concentrate to actually do it and that takes away from the other things I should be thinking about. My problem is my right knee is always hurting and I'm trying to look for alternative throwing styles that will result in more stable knee movement. Your knee has to be directly over your heel to prevent lateral twisting in the knee. Theoretically this is easier to do if you're heel pivoting. Maybe I just need a brace...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hypothesize that players who drive using their heel as the pivot, are predominately playing courses with cement teepads.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The lesson I learned from trying to throw from my heel is:

1. Only do this on concrete tee pads or very flat hard surfaces.
2. Wear skate shoes or minimalist runners (no grip).
3. If you notice your knee hurting, do not try to fix your form, go back to the way you always throw so your knee can heal before it is really hurt.
4. Suited best for Flex and roller throws (Leaning back).
5. Really try to throw flat footed rather than from the heel. With this the heel will naturally do what you are trying to make it do without having to think about it or over emphasizing and twisting your knee.
6. Do not try to power these throws. Think more about the whip and spin than muscle.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMR wrote:
Maybe I just need a brace...


Smartest thing you've said yet!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe I just need a brace...


Smartest thing you've said yet!

smile


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I knew we talked about heel pivots before.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheKid wrote:
OMR wrote:
Maybe I just need a brace...


Smartest thing you've said yet!

smile


I wear a brace ..see how I throw ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

disco rico wrote:
TheKid wrote:
OMR wrote:
Maybe I just need a brace...


Smartest thing you've said yet!

smile


I wear a brace ..see how I throw ?


Ummmm, frikkin far...?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what went threw my head.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbp wrote:
I would hypothesize that players who drive using their heel as the pivot, are predominately playing courses with cement teepads.


As in good players playing good courses? Then yes. I wouldn't attempt it in cleats. I also wouldn't attempt any throw in cleats. Seems super dangerous no matter the pivot point. I don't find the heel pivot any harder in grass/dirt conditions. But it should be toe, heel, pivot. Not straight to the heel.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bbp wrote:
...threw my head.


Threw your head? How far?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2015 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Watch Will's foot here.
https://instagram.com/p/4XVpmDuj4c/
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There will be foot work going down in the park starting at 9pm tonight. It will be wet but that will keep the crowds away.

In the mean time, enjoy some Junior. https://juniorkimbrough.bandcamp.com/releases
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